James Toney in MMA, Kimbo Slice in boxing, will either succeed?

Source:Scott Heritage |http://www.examiner.com/
James Toney and Kimbo Slice are two fighters who find themselves in similar positions, both attempting to enter a new sport at an advanced age and if you listen to the bookmakers both appearing to have little chance of success.

After winning multiple titles in boxing in a career spanning 22 years, and with the big fights now drying up, Toney enters the UFC octagon for the first time tonight against Randy Couture, a 13 year veteran of mixed martial arts very few are expecting him to beat.
Although the fight is widely being billed as the latest installment of the rather played out concept of boxing vs. mixed martial arts, in reality the outcome says very little about either sport.

Toney began his boxing career at 160lbs back in 1988, ahead of his fight with Couture tonight he weighed in at 237lbs, heavier even than his most recent boxing appearances. So the idea that Toney is really crossing over with a genuine mind to succeeding in the long term in MMA is a little hard to believe. More likely he’s looking forward to the 7 figure paycheck he’s reportedly receiving from the UFC more than anything else.
The public obsession with seeing how well a top level boxer would do in MMA is still alive and well though it seems, despite the fact that the question has been answered numerous times in the past with various outcomes.
Generally speaking most boxers are either taken down and submitted, or kicked into submission in an MMA fight. Every now and then one will land a big punch and win a bout ala Ray Mercer vs. Tim Sylvia, but they are in the minority. So Toney’s chances tonight are slim to say the least. He could certainly knock Couture out if he catches him, but where he has one way to win, Couture has several, and knows how to defend against Toney’s only weapon
On the other side of the coin we have Kimbo Slice, a 37 year old Florida native who achieved notoriety through a series of online bare knuckle fights which were uploaded to Youtube. The basic premise being that he would travel to various neighborhoods and take on the resident tough guy, usually in a back yard or parking lot.
After achieving millions of hits and building a huge following in the process, Slice decided that he would be better served competing in mixed martial arts, and began his career under the now defunct EliteXC banner. After a brief spell in the UFC, Slice sported a record of 4-2, and seemingly didn’t have as much of the drawing power as he entered the sport with.
Slice’s next move after crashing out of MMA then?
Become a boxer of course!
While no official opponent has yet been found for Slice, aka Kevin Ferguson, it isn’t easy to think of many credible heavyweights he would stand much of a chance against, even in today’s rather shallow division. He might be matched up with easy fights for the short term, but with age not on his side he will need to progress quickly if he really wants to achieve anything in the sport.
Realistically, Slice left MMA for several reasons. Firstly he was getting too old at 37, and doesn’t have the gas tank to keep up with younger more athletic opponents. Which is especially problematic given that he is on the smaller end of the heavyweight scale, but remains too big to compete at light heavyweight. Also he has had several problems with his knees, including arthiritis, meaning many aspects of daily mixed martial arts training were troublesome. Not only that, but his chin was called into question after he was knocked out by a natural light heavyweight during his last EliteXC appearance.
None of these issues will really be any different in a boxing ring, and outside of being paired up only with journeymen Slice’s chances in boxing are probably even slimmer than Toney’s are in the UFC.

Bud Johnson, Pittsburgh: “Toney is barely understandable, he should have given up boxing ten years ago, let alone starting MMA instead. He’s getting beaten down quick”
James Greening, Philly: “Kimbo isn’t getting in with anyone decent in boxing but Toney is getting thrown to the wolves in the UFC, Kimbo lasts longer in boxing than Toney does in MMA”.
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UFC’s Dana White: ‘Floyd’s scared of Manny’

source: Josef T. Ramos | manilatimes.net

Ultimate Fighting Championship (UFC) President Dana White believes that American Floyd Mayweather Jr. (41-0 win-loss record with 25 knockouts) is simply afraid of Filipino ring icon Manny Pacquiao.


 

“I think it’s a very dangerous fight for Floyd Mayweather and I think Floyd knows that and I don’t think Floyd is too crazy about this fight,” White told www.fighthype.com on Wednesday saying he personally really likes to see the fight.

“He moves around and does his thing. Pacquiao is so dangerous because he’s so fast, he hits hard too and he throws his best punches while he’s getting hit,” he added, reiterating his belief that Mayweather is very afraid of the Filipino boxer.

White explained Mayweather is afraid of Pacquiao (51-3-2 card with 38 knockouts) because he won’t be able to counter the latter’s killer punches, “It’s simply comes down to fear. Stylistically, Floyd doesn’t like this fight,” he said.

White also wishes Pacquiao good luck in his fight against Mexican Antonio Margarito slated November 13 tentatively at the Dallas Cowboys Stadium in Arlington Texas.

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Dana White: Chael Sonnen rematch up next for UFC champ Anderson Silva

by MMAjunkie.com

Despite his loss at UFC 117, Chael Sonnen has earned an immediate rematch with UFC middleweight champion Anderson Silva.

UFC president Dana White, who’s busy with a final media blitz for this week’s UFC 118 event in Boston, today confirmed the plans while on ESPN’s “SportsCenter,” though a date has not been determined for the rematch.


Sonnen dominated four and a half rounds of the Aug. 7 fight before Silva scored a come-from-behind triangle-choke victory in the fifth and final round.

As MMAjunkie.com (www.mmajunkie.com) reported immediately after the Oakland, Calif. fight, White acknowledged fans’ desire for the rematch, but initially he was noncommittal about Silva (27-4 MMA, 12-0 UFC) vs. Sonnen (25-11-1 MMA, 4-4 UFC) II.

“It’s definitely a rematch I think people are going to want to see,” White said after the event “Looking at Twitter, everybody is saying, ‘Rematch. Rematch.’ We’ll see what happens. Vitor is waiting to fight right now, too. We could do the rematch with Chael, but we’ll see what happens. We’ll see how it goes.”

White’s initial reluctance may have been in part due to Vitor Belfort, who was slated to fight Silva until an injury opened the door for Sonnen. Belfort is expected to fight in November, but he’s no longer fighting for a title.

Sonnen, of course, heavily hyped the UFC 117 bout with an endless stream of trash-talk. Many fans snickered at Sonnen’s bold predictions of victory – Silva, after all, had soundly defeated the 11 previous opponents the UFC put before him – but according to CompuStrike, Sonnen scored 51 strikes to Silva’s two in the first round. And through three rounds, he had opened a 218-to-11 gap.

Sonnen continued the lopsided beatdown until the fifth round, when Silva capitalized on one of his opponent’s few mistakes and secured a fight-ending triangle choke at the 3:10 mark of the final round.

The rematch is now expected to take place later this year or in early 2011.
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"Strikeforce: Houston" main-card recap: Feijao, Souza claim gold; Lashley stopped

by John Morgan and Dann Stupp | http://mmajunkie.com
HOUSTON – For two rounds, former Strikeforce light heavyweight champion Muhammed “King Mo” Lawal looked like he could get away with his lackadaisical hand position.

For 10 minutes, Lawal appeared as if he could defend his title even while unable to work the fight to the ground.

 


Then Rafael “Feijao” Cavalcante proved him wrong.

Down two rounds to none after Lawal was just a little faster, just a little crisper, Cavalcante appeared to be fading as time wore on. But the daringly low hands of Lawal finally provided the opening Cavalcante needed. Unable to pull his head back enough to avoid the blow, Lawal tasted a firm right hand on the chin.

Then it all fell apart.

Wobbled by the blow, Lawal returned to his roots and shot in from the outside. But as he had throughout the fight, Cavalcante shucked off the attempt and delivered a powerful knee in the clinch. Lawal staggered back, and Cavalcante refused to let him off the hook.

A wild right hand clipped Lawal’s chin, and the belt holder was flat on his back.

Lawal showed heart in working back to his feet and instinctually looking for the takedown, but Cavalcante simply pinned himself against the cage and delivered a stunning array of elbows to the head. Lawal refused to drop, but his body swayed and rocked, and referee “Big” John McCarthy wisely called off the fight 74 seconds into the third round.

In the end, Lawal ended up with the striking advantage over his opponent with a tally of 139-93, but it was the ones that counted that fell to Cavalcante.

With the win, Cavalcante (10-2 MMA, 2-1 SF) claimed his first-ever world title. Meanwhile, Lawal (7-1 MMA, 2-1 SF) suffered his first-ever career defeat.

With Strikeforce’s vacant middleweight championship on the line, Brazilian submission ace Ronaldo “Jacare” Souza did what he doesn’t do best – strike his way to victory.

Fellow challenger Tim Kennedy provided a stern challenge, and according to CompuStrike, he actually won the striking battle 207-186 over the 25-minute affair. But Souza’s striking total consisted of more clean punches, and he appeared just a step ahead of his opponent throughout the fight.

Kennedy was willing to stay tight in the pocket throughout, but a very tight fight in the opening two rounds started to separate a bit in the third. Kennedy suffered a cut that reddened his face, and with the action close, the damage undeniably colored the action.

Souza slowed as the fight wore on, though he did not appear nearly as fatigued as he did in a May win over Joey Villasenor. Instead, his offense simply slowed, and he allowed Kennedy to stake a claim for the fourth frame by ceasing his offensive moments. But while he was ahead on the cards heading into the final round, the result was anything but certain.

Until it was.

Souza and Kennedy were even again in the final round, but a brief moment of back control on the feet followed by a powerful flurry in the closing seconds left little doubt as to who would claim the belt.

In the end, Souza was awarded the unanimous-decision win with scores of 49-46, 48-47 and 48-47.

Souza (13-2 MMA, 3-0 SF) has now won three-straight fights and is undefeated under the Strikeforce banner. Kennedy (12-3 MMA, 3-1) loses for the first time since 2007.

In lightweight action, former EliteXC champion K.J. Noons turned in one of his most impressive performances of his career, but it was marred by a pair of questionable attacks.

Opponent Jorge Gurgel once again refused to play to his grappling strengths and instead chose to stand and trade throughout the contest – a strategy that did not turn out well.

Noons earn the best of the striking in the opening frame, and Gurgel’s face showed the wear. With blood trickling down Gurgel’s face, Noons unleashed a powerful left hook right at – or perhaps shortly after – the closing bell of the opening round. Gurgel was dropped from the shot, but referee Kerry Hatley ruled that the punch was legal and a dazed Gurgel was fine to carry on.

Noons pounced in the second frame, and another pinpoint combination put Gurgel again on the canvas. But as Noons looked to Hatley to stop the fight (he declined), he unleashed a barrage of strikes destined to end the fight. Unfortunately, one of those appeared to be an illegal knee that grazed Gurgel’s head.

Hatley had seen enough and waved off the fight, even as a protesting Gurgel stumbled to his feet.

Following the win, Noons said it was adrenaline that led him to the wild finish.

“I’ve got the killer instinct, and I wanted to just go in there and finish it,” Noons said.

Following the win – his sixth straight – Noons (10-2 MMA, 2-0 SF) called out everyone from Floyd Mayweather to Nick Diaz. Meanwhile, Gurgel (13-7 MMA, 1-2 SF) once again delivered a crowd-pleasing fight, but he’s won just one time in his past five trips to the cage.

If the comparisons between fellow WWE veterans Bobby Lashley and Brock Lesnar hadn’t stopped before Saturday night, they will certainly cease following the evening’s first televised contest.

The heavily favored Lashley took opponent Chad Griggs to the floor early and often, and he used his collegiate wrestling background to control the action on the floor. But Lashley looked uncomfortable and frantic on top, and he passed on submission attempts in favor of punching from the top. While it was effective in the opening round, it was obvious Lashley was tiring quickly.

As the round closed, Lashley’s face showed the wear of Griggs’ counterattacks as a wide cut just under the left eye bled freely.

In the second round, Lashley put the wound aside and returned to his wrestling base. But even as he advanced to a secure mount position, he showed little desire to finish with a submission – even as multiple opportunities stood in front of him. Lashley’s attack was so anemic from the top that referee Jon Schorle stood the fighters with Lashley in the mount position.

On the restart, Lashley offered a lazy, fatigued shot, and Griggs pushed his head down and unloaded until the end of the frame. Lashley slowly rose to his feet, and as Schorle quizzed the massive American Top Team fighter if he wanted to continue, the former WWE star neglected to answer. It was all Schorle needed to wave off the fight between frames.

Lashley did not protest.

Following the surprise win, Griggs said he realized public opinion was definitely not in his favor.

“I think there was like 15 people here that thought I was going to win,” Griggs said. “Bobby is such an athlete, such a monster.”

With the upset win, Griggs (9-1 MMA, 1-0 SF) has now won four-straight fights overall. The loss for Lashley (5-1 MMA, 1-1 SF) is the first of his career.

For complete coverage of the evening’s preliminary card, see: “Strikeforce: Houston” preliminary-card recap: Cormier rolls; Galvao survives scare

MAIN CARD

  • Rafael “Feijao” Cavalcante def. Muhammed “King Mo” Lawal via TKO (strikes) – Round 3, 1:14
  • Ronaldo “Jacare” Souza def. Tim Kennedy via unanimous decision (49-46, 48-47, 48-47) – for vacant Strikeforce middleweight title
  • K.J. Noons def. Jorge Gurgel via KO (punches) – Round 2, 0:19
  • Chad Griggs def. Bobby Lashley via TKO (strikes) – Round 2, 5:00

PRELIMINARY CARD

  • Daniel Cormier def. Jason Riley via submission (strikes) – Round 1, 1:02
  • Andre Galvao def. Jorge Patino via TKO (strikes) – Round 3, 2:45
  • Vinicius Magalhaes def. Rocky Long via unanimous decision (29-28, 30-27, 30-27)
  • Adam Schindler def. Keir Gooch via submission (rear-naked choke) – Round 1, 1:58
  • Reynaldo Trujillo def. Jose Santibanez via TKO (strikes) – Round 1, 0:28
  • Chad Robichaux def. Humberto DeLeon via split decision (29-28, 28-29, 29-28)
  • Artenas Young def. Chad Cook via unanimous decision (30-27, 29-28, 30-27)

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Does James Toney look like he’s in shape for UFC 118?

James Toney working out and making sure that he is well conditioned before the fight with Randy couture on August 28, 2010, UFC 118.
The co main attraction of Edgar vs Penn, Toney can sure deliver a knock out punch but with his weight and big belly will he be conditioned to fight Couture if it goes the distance, Well if Big country can do it, why not him?
Only one week to go to find out, stick around and watch the UFC 118 live streaming

MMA mocks boxing shirt!

With UFC 118 coming soon, looks like everybody is getting in the act of Boxing vs MMA. 
James Toney is going to hunt you down!

Personally I feel that both are very good sports although MMA provide more danger to its fighter because of its rule it also provide more excitements to its fans, however I feel that boxers are more skilled. In MMA it is more likely that you see an upset, in boxing you have to really work on your timing and build of on your score.


Its harder to knock out boxer using a bigger gloves compare to MMA that also maybe why people like UFC because its more violent,  and yeah you can choke your opponent in MMA.

So who’s the winner?  I will let you decide on that.

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UFC takes home-court advantage as MMA-Boxing rivalry comes to a head on UFC 118: Couture vs Toney

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Source: http://www.examiner.com

As much as Randy Couture’s fight against James Toney at UFC 118 on August 28 isn’t about the sport of mixed martial arts vs. boxing, for most MMA fans, it pretty much is. Sound minds and forward thinkers will easily dismiss that argument, as we all should. A fight may be a fight, but the two are absolutely separate and completely different sports. Toney and Couture might think they are repping for their respective sports when they jump into that octagon, but they aren’t, even if people think they are. Pardon me if I sound a bit confusing right now.

Seems to me that the UFC has a full-on campaign marketing this fight as their stand against boxers who maligned and challenged their legitimacy. There’s almost a sense of over-confidence to a certain extent. Rightfully so, Toney is coming to enemy territory against one of it’s most decorated figures in Couture. Odds-makers have Toney as a 6-1 underdog heavily relying on the MMA fans’ thinking that Toney can’t possibly have enough ground and overall grasp of MMA to defeat a veteran like Couture. For the most part, all people give Toney, figuratively and literally, is a puncher’s chance for an upset victory.

Maybe. We’ll see. But one thing’s for sure. This will be THE EVENT, both boxing and MMA fans will be watching on August 28.

So why is it that boxing and MMA seem to have it out against each other? I’m embedded deep enough in both sport to objectively acknowledge that there is some form of mild animosity and rivalry between both sides. And quite frankly, a lot of it has got to do with ignorance and arrogance.

A lot of the hardcore boxing fans and experts consider MMA as a brutal fad that has captured the Caucasian market ribbing it as ‘NASCAR with 4 0z. gloves’. You got to understand, not since Rocky Marciano has there been a legit White American heavyweight boxing champion, and MMA critics would say this is an outlet for the white athlete to find a place to excel after becoming afterthoughts in sports they used to dominate like boxing, basketball and football. Don’t take my word for it. Bob Arum, who is arguably the biggest promoter in boxing, has called MMA a sport for ‘skin heads’ and ‘red necks’. Veteran boxing writer Michael Marley, whom I consider a good friend, has had his share of vile comments toward the sport.

Marley wrote, prior to UFC 100 last year,

“No, UFC is for the young, the virile, the stupid.

It’s for men who like to see men on top of each other as though they were doing a screen test for gay porno movies.

I’m open-minded. I get a charge out of watching Gina Carano kick butt and take names.

I enjoyed seeing the You Tube videos of Kimbo Slice whupping winos and crackheads in Miami boatyards and back alleys.

But I won’t pay to watch UFC 100 this Saturday night, no way, Don Jose Sulaiman.

You couldn’t pay me $50 to watch it…up the bribe to $100 and we can talk.

The few MMA events I’ve attended, I thought I was at a Ku Klux Klan Youth rally.”

I remember having to respond to Marley’s article defending the sport of MMA and simply dismissing this rivalry and criticism aimed at each other from both sides as a case of comparing apples and oranges.

But that was then. About three weeks ago, I jokingly mentioned UFC 118 to Marley and Toney’s involvement on top of the fact that it was going down in his home state of Massachusetts. To my surprise, Marley responded by asking me how to obtain credentials to cover the UFC event. Maybe Marley figured he’d show up for the simple fact that he could write about it the next day and say it was whack, but this is perhaps a moral victory in itself. The hardcore boxing guy that not too long ago said wouldn’t take money to see a UFC fight live is actually curious and compelled enough to see what it really is about. (Marley will be fine. Last time I checked, the Ku Klux Klan still liked white folks. I should know right? I currently live in the same state Klansmen have their headquarters)

And for that, you have to commend UFC president Dana White’s dynamic, aggressive and innovative promotional ways. He has turned the UFC franchise into ‘must see’ TV even prompting mainstream networks like ESPN to cover it as he continue to expand and promote the sport by constantly branching out to new cities and countries.

In terms of production, promotions and how they cater to their fans, the UFC definitely has been kicking boxing’s rear end in the past couple of years. Having the monopoly of most of the sport’s biggest fighters, the UFC constantly gives it’s fans the match-ups they want as opposed to boxing who can’t even make the one fight everyone has been clamoring for in a long time in Pacquiao vs. Mayweather.

On the other hand, Toney has also been given the cold shoulder by many of MMA’s characters. Recently in an interview with our friend up in Mississippi, the hardworking Brad Cooney, Toney scoffed at the lack of respect coming from people like comedian-turned quasi-MMA expert and UFC TV commentator Joe Rogan who was rolling his eyes on Toney at UFC 117 on TV, and condescending interviews from the likes of MMA reporters like Ariel Helwani. Toney said, “You know what, my thing is this. Joe Rogan’s a b**** (expletive syn. female dog)[…] If they’re not going in the ring, or not going in the cage, tell em to shut the F*** up. Excuse my language. He don’t got a business talking about a sport he never did before.” When his MMA knowledge was put on question by the reporter Helwani who pointed out a ‘side check kick’ term Toney coined in one of his previous interviews, Toney sarcastically responded by saying “I don’t know anything about MMA. Tune-in on August 28 and pay your 59.95 or however much you have to pay for it. Tune in to watch and see how much I know,” and added “I don’t know wrestling, I don’t know Jiu Jitsu, all I know is how to fight.”

Toney may talk a lot of trash, but he is also one of the most intelligent and toughest boxers in it’s history. He didn’t come to the UFC to make a fool of himself. I guarantee you the guy is training his butt of and deserves due respect. You got to give it to the guy for wanting to come into a sport and challenge the best right away. And if the UFC truly belittled him, why didn’t they give him a match-up with someone like Kimbo Slice or a lesser fighter since Toney is just making his debut? In actuality, this match between a former UFC heavyweight champion fighting a rookie, would never be allowed in regulations of boxing match-making. But perhaps UFC wants to send boxing and it’s fans a statement, and so some of it’s ‘expert’ fans and reporters can gloat. Then again, Toney did ask for it, but the last thing I want to see is some non-fighting MMA reporter belittling a future boxing Hall of Famer.

It’s what it is really. For the most part, the feeble-minded are those who love making an issue and comparing boxing from the other. As for myself, I will enjoy this match-up for what it is. An intriguing clash between two tough champions inside the cage. And any real MMA fan knows, that inside the cage, ANYTHING CAN HAPPEN. And as for this whole MMA vs. Boxing rivalry? It’s foolish, since both can be equally admired and respected for the same reasons. Hopefully, regardless of what happens on the 28th, the event would promote better understanding and wash away some of the ignorance.

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Ring, cage face off at Garden

By Mark Daniels / UFC 118 | http://news.bostonherald.com

When Randy “The Natural” Couture and James “Lights Out” Toney square off at UFC 118 later this month at TD Garden, it’ll mark the first time a standout and relevant boxer steps inside the octagon.

The UFC bills its first trip to Boston Aug. 28 as a boxing vs. MMA affair, the two worlds colliding under the mixed martial arts banner. Though both heavyweights are past their primes, Couture (age 47) and Toney (41) have made waves in their respective sports.

Couture is a UFC Hall of Famer, three-time former champion and one of only two fighters to win a UFC title in two different divisions – light heavyweight and heavyweight. He had his first-ever MMA fight at UFC 13 in 1997. Simply put, he’s a pioneer of the sport and proud to represent it.

“I’ve been representing mixed martial arts in a lot of venues for a long time,” Couture said. “Back when this sport was being banned all over and most people couldn’t understand who we were and what we did. It’s an honor for me to be considered for this fight and to kind of carry the mixed martial arts mantel.”

Toney is the current IBA heavyweight champion, as well as the former IBF middleweight, super middleweight and cruiserweight champ. He’s 72-6 with 44 KOs in the ring and hasn’t lost since 2007, but MMA is a much different fight game.

MMA fighters wear just 4-ounce gloves, so boxers can use them for more defensive purposes. A boxer’s stance is different because he doesn’t have to worry about leg kicks and defending takedowns. Then there’s the ground game, and worrying about both submissions and ground-and-pound.

Toney, who plans on defending his IBF boxing title in October, has been training in MMA full-time in California under Trevor Sherman. He says he’s focusing on takedown and Brazilian jiu-jitsu defense.

“I enjoy it. For the past five months I’ve been preparing for this transition. I’m ready for everything,” Toney said. “I’m born to win, that’s all I do. Randy is going to be Randy and James is going to be James. Whatever happens happens but I win hands down. I’m going to knock him out.”

Former WBO heavyweight champion Ray Mercer, 49, has thrown his hat into the MMA game with mixed success. He lost via submission to Kimbo Slice in an exhibition bout, but then knocked out former UFC heavyweight champion Tim Sylvia in nine seconds last summer.

Don’t expect Couture to get caught up in the MMA vs. boxing hype.


“There’s no pressure. I don’t think there’s anything riding on this for the sport. This is a mixed martial arts competition,” Couture said. “Boxing is a great sport. I’ve enjoyed boxing my whole life, but this is still the octagon and still MMA. There’s cage tactics, there’s ground fighting. There’s a lot of things that don’t happen in boxing that are going to happen when you get in the cage.”
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James Toney is confident he will win at UFC 118

Looks like the Boxing champ  is up and hype for the challenge this coming Sunday at UFC 118, he will face Randy ” The Natural” Couture.

I see a trend of more boxing fighter trying MMA.

Mayorga  of Boxing was supposed to be in an MMA match before, it was only because of his contractual obligation with Don King that is why it did not happen.


If this will be a stand up game I see Toney winning it, But Couture will not be stupid enough to stand up in front of a boxer, He will most probably wrestle this guy and come away with the win.

I like the sport but I am not an expert and usually my predictions never come true, this time I chose the obvious winner and if my prediction still prove other wise then there is something wrong with  me.

Oh yeah, I think BJ Penn will WIN with this time around aswell , watch out for UFC 118 here
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